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  Just for the record Vincent Toole and Terrence Obrien you are both lying SOBs

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i just thought i would mention this on the off chance they might be lurking here.

  the two quotes are.

  (1)vincent toole ="i've never heard of the term 'theocratic warfare'".

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  I would also like to add to my other comment this experience :

  When I was still active I was friends with a woman that was inactive .Several of the Elders wives would make snide remarks about this or ask personal questions about my friend . I would always tell them to call and ask her themselves .... Then one day one of my best friends, who was also an Elders wife ,told me that if I did not cut off association with the inactive sister ,then she would no longer be able to be my friend .She used the same logic as they do with DFd persons " You have to cut off association so that they will see what they are missing ".She also said if this sister is involved with worldly things than I am guilty too by association.

  So don't tell me you can just walk away !
  
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  Just for the record Vincent Toole and Terrence Obrien you are both lying SOBs

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i just thought i would mention this on the off chance they might be lurking here.

  the two quotes are.

  (1)vincent toole ="i've never heard of the term 'theocratic warfare'".

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  In my experience being inactive was the same as being bad association . We just stopped attending meetings after being in this same congregation for over 30yrs. The first year we had a couple of people stop by with magazines ,but if I saw them at the grocery store they avoided me. My daughter in laws best friend from childhood told her flat out she was bad association ,because she no longer attended meetings .My son came home to attend a JW funeral ,and all his childhood friends told him unless he came back to meetings they wanted nothing to do with him .(this was while he was in mourning for his lost friend.)
  

  The only contact they want with inactive ones is to invite them to memorials or special talks .Sure they may come to an inactive ones door during the ministry ,but they do not stop by just to be social or to invite them over for dinner .
  
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  Quality Thinking - Warning: Long Post Ahead

  by Viviane in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  recently, several threads have had some debate about logic, evidence, critical thinking and skepticism.

  i wanted to write a post discussing those things, hopefully to clarify what those things are, why they are important and how to use those tools.

  first, logic, at its core, is simply a method for how to reason validly, how to draw conclusions based on a premise.

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  I really feel left behind after reading this thread . I have so much to learn ! Where do I start ? and remember I need it to be basics first ....I was indoctrinated for 44 long years ,the last ten have been decompression ,now I need to start again.
  
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  I Was Given The New Return To Jehovah Brochure

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i read it but it certainly didn't apply to me.

  nobody stumbled me or hurt my feelings.

  i just know crap when i see it.

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  I don't think anyone will give me one .....they don't want me back .....

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  
  
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  [Day 4 - 31/7]The Royal Commissions investigation of child sexual abuse within Jehovah’s Witnesses. + VIDEO

  by C0ntr013r in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  by popular demand i give you day 4, and i will finally get a couple of days to sleep .

  part 1 has been uploaded and part 2,3 and 4 will soon be available.. part 1:.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lmlcdqesa0&list=plpq6kz-aghvqbadlzmqn26dvmpzddxlui&index=11.

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  Thank you so much for all you have done to download these to youtube ! I have watched them all so far and am mesmerized by the Royal Commission . They have really done their research ,and there is no way the wool will be pulled over their eyes . Justice Peter McClellan is my hero !
  
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  Wakey wakey Jehovah's Witnesses! Your real world is being exposed

  by Half banana in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the posts here are flooding in on the subject of the watchtowers toleration of sexual abuse being publicised in the world media.

  sure they print and say its wrong like everyone else does but what their policies show above all is the lack of genuine, humane care and considerate welfare for its members.

  there must be so many voiceless jw victims and perhaps now they can speak out..

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  Did you catch the expressions on the face of the head commissioner when he asked if the Elder followed the news ? The Elder admitted he only occasionally skimmed the headlines ,and never watched the news on TV. He really came off as being ignorant ,and yet he just smiled ,and smiled as if he were some kind of celebrity . I hope Bethel is cringing .
  
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  Wednesday Hearings LIVE LINK NOW

  by Mad Sweeney in

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  2. scandals

  http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

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  Did they all just leave the room to collectively beat their heads against a brick wall ??? That's what I feel like doing listening to him talk in circles .
  
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  The Ultimate Tight Pants video for TMIII, God save us all!

  by Wasanelder Once in

  1. social
  2. humour

  tight pants.

  hope he sees it.

  doubtful.

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  PARTY ! I watched to the very END !!!! Do I get a prize ???......I REALLY deserve a prize .
  
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  The Religion Of Rejection - And Now That Includes Me

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  due to some recent developments i find myself in a new place, and at this point i've lost all of my family and fri....oh that's right, i never really had any friends in the organization anyway.

  just people that wanted something from me and a few people that i would invite to do things that occasionally said yes.

  the recent rejections of me got me thinking, so let's take a rejection inventory.. i had to reject all of the holidays when my parents started studying.. i had to reject any worldly friends that i already had.. even family became rejected, and the new religion had some place in that.. i was rejected in school and bullied all of the time, not just because we were poor and i made good grades, but for jw reasons too.

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  Welcome Dubstepped !! It never ceases to amaze me how so many on this site have stories that could be my own . It is a constant reminder none of us are alone in this struggle . For so many years we ,myself included,learned along the way to accept the rejection mindset established so well with in this religion.

  Isn't it invigorating to finally say "ENOUGH !" ,and start actually listening to our inner pleadings for normalcy .

  I have an older brother that was considered disassociated at 18 yrs of age . We were expected to reject him the rest of his life . This was the catalist for me to finally question everything . By the time 30 yrs had past , I could no longer wrap my head around the idea that he was still some kind of spiritual threat to anyone.The logic that if we shun him long enough he will come crawling back for our family association (as the experience at this summer convention states ) was not coming true.....So Why continue doing it ? He was married had a great family and was doing well in life . I too went to him to make ammends and to apologize for the yrs of rejection. Now because of my stand ,my other JW brother has decided to reject /shun the both of us .The craziness just never ends .

  Best wishes and welcome to the journey !
  
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  Brave high school student exposes abuse and corruption within Jehovahs witnesses

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdvt_gyq-ls&feature=youtu.be.

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  Outstanding presentation !

  If you are reading on this site- know that I am proud of you ,and admire your strength . Make connections with others that have left and rebuild your support system .